The Third Wave

The Third Wave podcast takes a fresh look at the world of psychedelics, hearing the stories of people both in the psychedelic fringe and in mainstream society. We want to share how psychedelics are transforming the lives of people everywhere, both inside and outside of the psychedelic community. By revealing and unraveling the vast range of personal psychedelic experiences, we hope to change the cultural stigma surrounding psychedelic use. Our conversations will focus on the use of psychedelics within two main frameworks: as tools for creativity and as medicine for mental health issues.
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Apr 9, 2017

Daniel Pinchbeck joins us this week, for a discussion on psychedelics and the current global crisis. “How Soon is Now?” is Daniel’s latest book, which lays out the failings of our modern culture and examines how indigenous traditions could help put things back on track. Daniel tells us a little about his own psychedelic past, and gives us some practical advice on changing things for the better.

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Apr 6, 2017

Our founder, Paul Austin, shares some of his thoughts on psychedelics, and the future direction of the psychedelic community. We also hear about current and future projects at The Third Wave that could have a big impact in the psychedelic space.

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Apr 5, 2017

The Psychedelia Podcast welcomes Lex Pelger, host of Psymposia, a platform for psychedelic discussion. Lex talks to us about his new book, which explores the medical potential of cannabinoids through a creatively illustrated Moby Dick metaphor. We talk about the importance of sharing our own personal psychedelic stories in turning the tide for the psychedelic revolution, and consider what a psychedelic future might look like.

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Mar 26, 2017

This week we talk to Joe and Kyle from Psychedelics Today, a regular podcast that explores important events in the field of psychedelics. We hear about how Joe and Kyle met, and about their unique personal experiences with psychedelics. We end up pretty much covering it all - life, death, rebirth and (of course), holotropic breathwork.

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Mar 19, 2017

Our guest is Mike (Zappy) Zapolin, entrepreneur and psychedelic advocate. Zappy is the director of the award-winning documentary “The Reality of Truth,” an exploration of the mystical and spiritual insights that the psychedelic experience can offer. Here we talk to Zappy about his advocacy, the future of psychedelics in the modern world, and how we can reach a ‘critical mass’ of spiritual evolution.

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Mar 12, 2017

Our guest is Reverend Danny Nemu, historian and author. He talks to us about drugs in the bible – and how priests used them to induce divine visions. It’s surprising how many natural substances mentioned in the bible are psychoactive, and were almost certainly used for their mind-altering properties. We also discuss how drug stigma has changed since biblical times, and what it means for the future of psychedelics.

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Mar 5, 2017

Our guest is Ismail Ali, Policy Fellow at MAPS. Ismail helps develop sensible drug policy that will create alternatives to the failed war on drugs. He talks to us about his experiences with psychedelics, including an ayahuasca experience with his family for the purpose of coping with personal tragedy. We talk about psychedelics, family and drug policy in the US.

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Feb 17, 2017

Our guest is Dr Neal Goldsmith, psychotherapist and author of “Psychedelic Healing: The Promise of Entheogens for Psychotherapy and Spiritual Development”. We talk about how psychedelics can be used to break open the outer shell of our acquired personalities, and reveal the primal self inside.

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Feb 13, 2017

Our guest is Dr Henry Fisher, policy director at the UK-based drug policy think tank, VolteFace. Henry and the team at VolteFace are hoping to make positive changes to current UK drug policy by getting people outside the drug reform community involved in the debate. Politicians are much more likely to listen to patient groups, economic think tanks or doctors than people in the drug reform community: and this is how VolteFace hope to change the face of drug policy in the UK.

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Jan 29, 2017

Our guest is Ayelet Waldman: author and legal expert who recently published “A Really Good Day”, an account of her experience with microdosing. In her book she reports that a month of LSD microdoses improved her life in many ways, and she argues for the decriminalisation of drugs and for the therapeutic potential of psychedelics. We talk to her about her experiences and the future of drug policy around the world.

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Jan 28, 2017

In this episode of the Third Wave Podcast, Jonathan Thompson of Psychedelic Parenting talks to us about his views on community, honesty, religion and spirituality, and how the psychedelic experience can contribute to raising a loving family. He’s been called a Pothead Parent… but Jonathan tells us that there’s much more to his philosophy than recreational drugs.

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Jan 27, 2017

We speak to Mike Margolies from Psymposia, an events group and digital magazine focused on psychedelics and drug policy reform. Mike talks about how Psymposia organises a platform for people to talk about their psychedelic experiences, and issues within the psychedelic community. We discuss the privilege still inherent in psychedelic culture when it comes to drug use and criminalisation, and what we can do to become a more diverse community.

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Jan 26, 2017

We speak to Gay Dillingham: filmmaker, environmentalist and producer. Gay has just released a film 20 years in the making, “Dying to Know”, a documentary about the relationship between two of the most influential people in the history of modern psychedelics, Timothy Leary and Richard Alpert (or Ram Dass). The film brings us to face with the taboo of death and how the psychedelic experience can help our society come to terms with mortality. Here, Gay discusses the making of the film, along with her own encounters with death and tragedy, and how psychedelics could begin to change the way we view mortality.

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Jan 25, 2017

We're joined by Dr Stephen Bright, co-founder of PRISM and a leading psychedelic researcher in Australia. Stephen talks to us about the problems facing the psychedelic movement in Australia, where a conservative government perpetuates a ‘Pathological Paradigm’ that rewards negative views on drugs. Stephen tells us how the future of drug policy in Australia depends on research, the media, and a shift in popular opinion.

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Jan 24, 2017

We talk to Jag Davies from the Drug Policy Alliance, and learn about why the legalization of psychedelics requires an open dialogue around the harms of criminalization. Jag tells us that if we rely on the approval of psychedelic therapy, psychedelics may only become available for a privileged few, continuing the marginalization of those who have been left behind by decades of prohibition.

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Jan 23, 2017

The special guest of today's podcast episode, Brad Burge, is Director of Communications and Marketing at the Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies, the membership-based 501 organization working to raise awareness and understanding of psychedelic substances

In this episode, Brad talks to us of his experience with psychedelics, and the role they played in his professional career.

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Jan 22, 2017

We're joined by Jesse Jarnow, author of Heads: A Biography of Psychedelic America. Jesse talks about his experiences growing up with drug prohibition, psychedelic literature and the Grateful Dead. We hear about Jesse’s favourite moments in the psychedelic history of America, and we find out how musicians, artists and chemists contributed to the psychedelic culture of the 1960s and 70s. Jesse also gives us his opinion on the prospects of the growing psychedelic movement in America.

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