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The Psychedelic Podcast connects you to the leaders and pioneers of the psychedelic renaissance. From deep healing to creativity, leadership to spirituality, business, health, human performance, relationships, sexuality, and even culture itself—every aspect of our world is being transformed by psychedelic medicines. Get an inspired, informed, balanced look into how these powerful medicines are already being safely and responsibly used to catalyze both personal and collective transformation. Whether you’re just curious or a seasoned psychonaut, or somewhere in between, you’ll get insightful, practical, cutting-edge conversations from the forefront of the psychedelic movement. Join us as we explore how psychedelics can be integrated into culture for the evolution of humanity.
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Jun 30, 2025

In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin speaks with Natalie Baird-King, a board-certified attorney in marital and family law who discovered the transformative power of forgiveness through psychedelic experiences.

Find full show notes and links here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-310/?ref=278

Natalie shares her journey from childhood abuse and depression to spiritual healing catalyzed by ayahuasca. As the author of Forgiving Unforgivable, she explains her HOPE model (Harken back, Open your heart, Proclaim forgiveness, Experience freedom) and how forgiveness—particularly self-forgiveness—became the key to healing her trauma and stepping into her purpose.

Natalie also discusses how her psychedelic experiences improved her professional approach as a mediator, bringing more compassion to her legal practice and inspiring her to share her story despite potential professional risks.

Natalie Baird-King is an accomplished author, transformational coach, and TEDx speaker dedicated to helping others overcome trauma and embrace forgiveness. She is the author of Forgiving Unforgivable and is currently working on her second book focusing on self-forgiveness. A survivor of childhood abuse, Natalie channels her personal experiences into coaching high-performing professionals to overcome emotional barriers. Inspired by her late father-in-law, legendary broadcaster Larry King, Natalie uses storytelling to empower others to heal and thrive.

Highlights:

  • Stumbling upon forgiveness through ayahuasca
  • The practice of self-forgiveness as liberation
  • Reconnecting with her father in a celestial journey
  • Breaking free from depression and alcohol dependency
  • The HOPE forgiveness model
  • Bringing compassion to the legal profession
  • Challenging professional stigma around psychedelics
  • Mentorship from legendary broadcaster Larry King
  • Advocating for psychedelic healing within legal circles
  • Transforming anger into purpose

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Jun 24, 2025

In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin sits down with Rachel Pastor and Tiffany Hurd, leaders behind Golden Rule Mushrooms, a woman-led microdosing company pushing the boundaries of accessibility, education, and intention in the psychedelic space.

Find full show notes and links here:
https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-309/?ref=278

From overcoming heroin addiction and corporate burnout to leading a values-driven microdosing brand, Rachel and Tiffany share their powerful personal journeys and the mission that fuels their work today. They dive into the evolving landscape of legal psychedelics, the challenges of running a public-facing microdosing company, and the line between recreational use and intentional wellness.

This candid conversation explores how Golden Rule is reframing the perception of psychedelics by offering trustworthy, well-branded psilocybin and LSD microdoses paired with community support and education.

Rachel Pastor is the co-founder of Golden Rule Mushrooms and a passionate advocate for healing through psychedelics. After overcoming heroin addiction and years of trauma, she became a leader in the wellness space, working in fitness and personal development before discovering the transformative power of microdosing. Today, she channels her lived experience into helping others access safe, supportive, and empowering psychedelic tools.

Tiffany Hurd is the co-founder of Golden Rule Mushrooms, a microdosing advisor, leadership mentor, and speaker with over seven years of experience in the psychedelic space. She has guided hundreds of individuals and teams through intentional microdosing journeys using neuroscience-backed protocols. Tiffany’s work bridges personal transformation and professional growth, helping people build emotional resilience, unlock creativity, and heal with integrity.

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Highlights:

  • From heroin addiction to fitness leader to microdosing advocate
  • Creating accessible, trusted microdosing products
  • Navigating legality and risk in a gray-market space
  • Building a woman-run company rooted in lived experience
  • The role of education in safe microdosing use
  • Wellness vs. recreational use
  • Can microdosing be overused or misused?
  • Microdosing as a catalyst—not a cure-all

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Jun 17, 2025

In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin welcomes Victoria Lynn Carroll, a Los Angeles-based filmmaker who made an unconventional journey from actor to documentary filmmaker.

Find full show notes and links here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-308/?ref=278

Victoria shares how a vision during an ayahuasca ceremony inspired her to create her directorial debut, She Is a Shaman, which provides an intimate look into the personal life of a female ayahuasca shaman in the Peruvian Amazon. She discusses the challenges of filming in the jungle without electricity, the personal transformations that coincided with her creative process, and her decision to release the film for free on YouTube, where it has garnered over 350,000 views. Victoria explores the intersection of sacred storytelling, the role of women in shamanic traditions, and how creating art became a form of surrender for her.

Episode Highlights:

  • Receiving the documentary vision during ayahuasca ceremony
  • Filming challenges without electricity in Peru's jungle
  • The paradoxical everyday life of female shamans
  • Navigating ethics while filming sacred ceremonies
  • Personal divorce synchronizing with creative breakthrough
  • Mystery guest's stormy behavior at the center
  • Choosing free YouTube distribution over streaming deals
  • Surrender as the filmmaker's creative process
  • Unknown Canadian refugee drama at the center
  • The translator who fled with bug-bitten lover

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Jun 9, 2025

In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin welcomes Dr. Richard Blake, a pioneering psychologist and breathwork researcher, to discuss the science and clinical application of Conscious Connected Breathwork (CCB).

Find full show notes and links here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-307/?ref=278

Dr. Blake shares key insights from his groundbreaking randomized controlled trial—the largest to date—on the effectiveness of CCB for reducing anxiety. The conversation explores the distinctions between breathwork modalities, how altered states are reached without substances, and why trauma-informed facilitation is essential for safe practice.

Paul and Dr. Blake also dive into the pitfalls of mainstream psychotherapy, the overlooked power of lifestyle interventions, and how breathwork compares to both SSRIs and psychedelics in measurable outcomes.

Dr. Richard Blake holds a PhD in Transpersonal Psychology and is a pioneering researcher in the field of breathwork, psychedelics, and holistic mental health. He conducted the largest-ever randomized controlled trial on Conscious Connected Breathwork (CCB), providing groundbreaking scientific evidence on its effects on anxiety and well-being. Dr. Blake works with RUNGA, where he is dedicated to advancing the evolution of mental health treatments—moving beyond head-centered approaches to include breathwork, psychedelics, nutrition, exercise, and other integrative healing practices. His mission is to help people unlock deeper levels of psychological resilience, nervous system regulation, and self-awareness through embodied and experiential methods.

Highlights:

  • Why breathwork is a potent tool for trauma and anxiety
  • Comparing Holotropic Breathwork to newer trauma-informed approaches
  • Facilitator-to-client ratio standards for safety
  • The ethics and economics of group breathwork sessions
  • Inside the largest randomized trial on CCB for anxiety
  • Why 5% adverse effects matters—and how it compares to SSRIs
  • The “pivotal mental states” hypothesis explained
  • Integration of talk therapy and altered states
  • The power of community and connection in healing
  • From peak performance to depth psychology: Dr. Blake’s story

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Jun 2, 2025

In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin welcomes back Rick Doblin, Ph.D., Founder and President of MAPS (Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies), for a deeply personal and visionary conversation on the recent FDA rejection of MDMA-assisted therapy.

Find full show notes and links here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-306/?ref=278

Rick opens up about the painful setbacks, internal missteps, and his own process of recovery and renewed hope. He explains why this isn’t the end—but a critical turning point for psychedelic medicine.

Rick and Paul unpack the nuances of drug plus therapy, exploring why context, integration, and culture matter as much as pharmacology. They reflect on the future of MAPS, the psychedelic renaissance beyond FDA approval, and how business, politics, and spirituality intersect with healing. The episode also explores Rick’s enduring belief in public benefit models, global collaboration, and the potential of a spiritualized humanity.

Rick Doblin, Ph.D., is the Founder and President of MAPS. He received his doctorate in Public Policy from Harvard’s Kennedy School of Government, and has spent nearly four decades advancing the safe and legal use of psychedelics and marijuana through science, education, and advocacy.

Highlights:

  • The cost of MAPS' quiet period
  • Why MDMA therapy was rejected by FDA
  • Pharma vs. therapy: What’s best for patients?
  • Drug-only treatments vs. integrated therapy
  • Ibogaine’s role in brain healing and PTSD
  • MAPS’ path forward: Phase 4 vs. Phase 3
  • What the Dutch got right about MDMA
  • Spiritualized humanity and self-transcendence
  • The global impact of MAPS’ work
  • Business, love, and psychedelic ethics



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