Dillan DiNardo, CEO of Mindstate Design Labs, joins Paul F. Austin in exploring the use of AI to design human states of consciousness.
Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-236-dillan-dinardo/
Dillan shares his background growing up in a religious community and his journey into psychedelics. He discusses the origin story of Mindstate Design Labs, and the role of language and AI in understanding altered states of consciousness. Dillan also talks about his experience suing the DEA and winning, advocating for the research of psychoactive substances.
In this conversation, Dillan sheds light on unique approaches to psychedelic drug development. He envisions “expanding the psychedelic world” to design states of consciousness never before imagined—with therapeutic potential.
Dillan DiNardo is the CEO of Mindstate Design Labs, a next-generation psychedelic biotech company designing novel altered states of consciousness for mental health therapeutics. The company's mission is to map the biological basis of the varieties of psychedelic experience, enabling the precision design of novel altered states and a deeper understanding of the biological basis of consciousness. Mindstate Design Labs' backers include Y Combinator and founders of OpenAI, Neuralink, AngelList, Coinbase, Instacart, and Twitch.
Prior to Mindstate Design Labs, Dillan worked in a $1 billion venture fund, executing and managing biopharma, medical device, and health tech investments ranging from pre-seed to publicly traded companies.
Highlights:
Dillan’s journey from fundamentalist religious upbringing to finding psychedelics
Sasha and Ann Shulgin, Tom Ray, and the origin story of Mindstate Design Labs
Joining startup accelerator Y Combinator
Intentionally designing states of consciousness
The role of language and AI in altered states of consciousness
Suing the DEA and winning
Links:
Mindstate Design Labs: https://www.mindstate.design/
Dillan on Twitter: https://twitter.com/dillandinardo
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Vanessa Crites, founder of Sobriety of the Soul, joins Paul F. Austin to discuss the intersection of recovery and psychedelics.
Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-235-vanessa-crites/
Vanessa shares her personal journey of recovery and how she became interested in psychedelic medicine. She explores the intersection of recovery and psychedelics, highlighting the spiritual principles of the 12-step program and the history of psychedelics in Alcoholics Anonymous (AA). Vanessa unpacks her educational program, Sobriety of the Soul, which provides resources and support for individuals in recovery interested in working with psychedelics. She discusses the unique challenges faced by people in recovery, and the need to normalize the conversation around psychedelics within that group. She also emphasizes the importance of discernment when it comes to the intentional and responsible application of psychedelics in recovery.
Vanessa closes with resources and recommendations and shares her vision of sobriety of the soul as the next frontier for those in recovery.
Vanessa Crites
Vanessa Crites is a recovery strategist and educator dedicated to the thoughtful integration of psychedelics into sober living. She guides individuals towards profound healing and personal growth through mentorship and her flagship program Sobriety of the Soul. Drawing from a wealth of professional experience and personal recovery since 2005, Vanessa blends the rigor of evidence-based practices with the depth of spiritual wisdom to offer a safe and responsible pathway for those in recovery.
Rooted in 12-Step principles, Vanessa’s approach bridges the gaps between traditional recovery models and the expansive potential of psychedelics, delivering a holistic understanding that encompasses spiritual, emotional, and psychological well-being.
She is devoted to debunking misconceptions while championing harm reduction, prioritizing both personal and public well-being. Through her work, Vanessa illuminates a path beyond the confines of traditional sobriety approaches, guiding those in active recovery towards the empowerment of an awakened, authentic existence—what she calls “Soulful Sobriety.”
Highlights:
Vanessa’s recovery journey and path to psychedelics
The spiritual and psychedelic origins of AA and the 12 Steps of Recovery
How Bill Wilson’s LSD experiences impacted his recovery
Vanessa’s journey incorporating psychedelics into her recovery
Sobriety of the Soul’s origin story and programming
Synthetic vs. plant medicines for recovery
The discernment needed to avoid reliance on psychedelic experiences
Normalizing conversations about psychedelics in addiction recovery communities
Resources for psychedelics and recovery
Links:
Sobriety of the Soul: https://sobrietyofthesoul.com/join-sos961348?am_id=paul179
Vanessa’s free Recovery-Informed Microdose Guide: https://bit.ly/45FgylL
Bill Wilson’s article, “The Next Frontier: Emotional Sobriety”: https://silkworth.net/alcoholics-anonymous/the-next-frontier-emotional-sobriety/
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Join Paul F. Austin for an interesting weaving of meditation, psychedelics, and conscious leadership, with renowned executive coach Eric Kaufmann.
Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-234-eric-kaufmann/
This intimate conversation was recorded live from Eric’s “meditation temple” built beside his house in Southern California. Eric shares his journey from being kicked out of college to finding meditation and his early adventures integrating psychedelics into his meditation practice.
He reveals his insights from a year-long meditation retreat and emphasizes the growing need to bring humanity and spirituality to business. Eric lays out his two books and their roadmaps to conscious leadership. Finally, the two explore how psychedelics can be integrated into coaching to help leaders transcend “ego myopia,” which Eric sees as the biggest barrier to executive effectiveness and conscious leadership.
Eric Kaufmann:
Eric Kaufmann combines an unrelenting commitment to results with an unyielding regard for spirit. He is the product of forty years of Zen practice seamlessly woven into three decades of business leadership, both as a corporate leader and advisor to leaders.
Eric is an appointed Thought Leader at Harvard’s Institute of Coaching. He designed and taught the Coaching for Professionals program at San Diego State University, and has presented at TEDx. Author of The Four Virtues of a Leader and Leadership Breakdown, Eric is laser focused on teaching executives and leaders how to raise their game as human-centered leaders with bottom line accountability.
Eric’s teaching and guidance to clients such as Dr. Bronner’s, Verizon, ASML, Sunpower, Circle, SDG&E, Alcon, and Facebook, weaves in tried-and-true wisdom gleaned from more than 15,000 hours as an executive guide.
Eric has lived and worked on three continents, and managed and led at Fortune 100 firms. In addition to his degree in business, he is a certified Clinical Hypnotherapist and Master Scuba diving Instructor. In his previous life, he lived off the grid in a mountain cabin he built by himself. Eric is married for 25 years and is the blessed father of two remarkable young women who know how to navigate the Matrix.
Highlights:
Finding spiritual communion through meditation
From being kicked out of college to finding meditation
Eric’s early adventures integrating psychedelics into his meditation practice
Revelations from a year-long meditation retreat
Turning home and work life into spiritual practices
The growing need to bring humanity and spirituality to business
Cultivating community outside the workplace
How conscious business practices can shape culture
Unpacking the four virtues of a leader
Transcending ‘Ego Myopia’ to conscious leadership
Integrating psychedelic experiences through coaching
Eric’s vision for creating more conscious leaders
Learn more about Eric’s books
Links:
Eric’s website: http://www.sagatica.com/
Eric on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/eric.kaufmann/
Eric on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/erickaufmann7
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In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin is joined by Dave Asprey, the “father of biohacking," to explore altered states—from psychedelics to neurofeedback.
Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-233-dave-asprey/
Dave shares his journey from discovering yak butter tea in the Himalayas to revolutionizing biohacking. He unravels the intersection of biohacking and psychedelics, highlighting the potential benefits and risks of substances like ayahuasca. Then, Dave unpacks his 40 Years of Zen program, its unique neurofeedback approach, and the nuanced differences between neurofeedback and psychedelics.
Finally, Dave shares his vision for the evolution of humanity, emphasizing biohacking, consciousness, and reclaiming sovereignty.
Dave Asprey:
Dave Asprey is an award-winning entrepreneur and tech innovator known around the world as "The Father of Biohacking." He's a multi-New York Times and national bestselling author of Game Changers, Head Strong, The Bulletproof Diet, and Smarter Not Harder, the creator of Bulletproof Coffee, and the host of the Webby Award-winning #1 rated health show, The Human Upgrade Podcast (formerly Bulletproof Radio). Dave is the founder and CEO of Upgrade Labs, the first franchise of biohacking gyms, and Danger Coffee, his mineralized, mold-free coffee.
Over the last two decades Dave has worked with world-renowned doctors, researchers, scientists, and global mavericks to uncover the latest, most innovative methods, techniques, and products for enhancing mental and physical performance. Dave has personally spent over $2 million taking control of his own biology, pushing the bounds of human possibility all in the name of science evolution and revolution. The creator of the Bulletproof diet and innovator of Bulletproof Coffee, Collagen Protein supplements, and many more advances in commercial wellness products, Dave’s mission is to empower the entire globe with information and knowledge that unlocks the Super Human in everyone at any age. The proof of these advancements are better sleep, energy, and expanded capacity for all.
Highlights:
Discovering yak butter tea in the Himalayas
The power of coffee and nicotine
The journey of Bulletproof Coffee
Taking control of your biology through biohacking
Exploring altered states, from psychedelics to neurofeedback
The importance of psychedelic integration
The nexus of biohacking and psychedelics
Cautions around Ayahuasca and other psychedelics
Cultivating the ‘skills’ of forgiveness and gratitude
40 Years of Zen and neurofeedback
Dave’s vision for his own longevity and current projects
Shifting from victimhood to sovereignty
Final thoughts and recommendations
Links:
Dave’s website https://daveasprey.com/
Dave on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dave.asprey/
Dave on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Daveaspreyofficial/
40 Years of Zen: https://40yearsofzen.com/
Danger Coffee: https://dangercoffee.com/
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